• ikiru@lemmy.ml
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    I don’t know how much you know about the political history of Indonesia, but it’s already pretty much a fascist state.

    Check out The Act of Killing. It’s brutal.

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        How come you say that? Genuine question. Seemed to me like the people who did or supported the mass murders of Leftists were still in power.

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          Ask anyone in Indonesia if their country is fascist. Or better yet, go visit Indonesia and check by yourself.

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            “Ask all the people in the country who would never say that out loud about their country as they’re under duress as saying that about their country will get them killed in their country”

            Yeah, good plan

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              I always talk shit about my country (Indonesia), but Indonesia really is not a fascist state anymore. Seriously. Your information might be out of date as of 2023. Just tell me why you think Indonesia is a fascist state and I’ll see if it’s still applicable now.

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                Hey, I don’t have any information about Indonesia specifically; all I’m saying is that if you ask someone if the country they live in is fascist, you’ll get one of three “no”s:

                1. They’ll say no, because it isn’t.
                2. They’ll say no, because it is but they like it, and they know what a bad connotation the word has.
                3. They’ll say no, because it is and they don’t like it, but they know what a ban connotation the word has and they don’t want to be locked up for it.
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            When you kill people who say otherwise… all there is left is people who praise you… either out of fear or out of stupidity.

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      This is like saying Germany is a fascist state because of the Nazi which are already gone a long time ago.

      Edit: why the downvotes? The people referenced in the Act of Killings documentary are either no longer in power or long dead. The golfing dude who look important are just head of some gang organization who have a bad reputation among Indonesian people that know him (most don’t), not an elected government official. How is Indonesia a fascist state when every election periods we have two presidential candidates with very close vote counts?