• US occupying forces in northern Syria are continuing to plunder natural resources and farmland, a practice ongoing since 2011
  • Recently, US troops smuggled dozens of tanker trucks loaded with Syrian crude oil to their bases in Iraq.
  • The fuel and convoys of Syrian wheat were transported through the illegal settlement of Mahmoudia.
  • Witnesses report a caravan of 69 tankers loaded with oil and 45 with wheat stolen from silos in Yarubieh city.
  • Similar acts of looting occurred on the 19th of the month in the city of Hasakeh, where 45 tankers of Syrian oil were taken out by US forces.
  • Prior to the war and US invasion, Syria produced over 380 thousand barrels of crude oil per day, but this has drastically reduced to only 15 thousand barrels per day.
  • The country’s oil production now covers only five percent of its needs, with the remaining 95 percent imported amidst difficulties due to the US blockade.
  • The US and EU blockade prevents the entry of medicines, food, supplies, and impedes technological and industrial development in Syria.
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    MBFC is a good enough source for routine information, and its system is accurate enough to give a general idea of who finances, who writes, and whether the articles are sourced according to journalistic standards. It’s a good tool to help with critical evaluation of media sources. But you’re right: it’s not flawless.

    Your attack on the founder is an ad hominem attack, and I don’t think it’s relevant. Are you suggesting that people can only learn things through a university education?

    Besides, it’s often cited by university sources and experts as being a decent enough indicator of reliability and bias, if not necessarily held up to standards of something like a peer review.

    It’s a tool to be used in conjunction with critical thought and evaluation of the source itself, and for that I think it’s rather accurate and useful.

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      Thing is, even if he is good at media criticism, there’s no stakes for him. Nobody knows who he is, what he looks like, he has nothing on the line, and his credibility in his primary occupation cannot be harmed if he is wrong.

      Nevermind that he lacks the credentials nor any legitimate scientific expertise, and yet claims that his Bachelor’s in Physiology was sufficiently advanced to teach him everything he needs to know about the scientific process.

      The dataset is seen in academia as being accurate enough to train machine learning models for or to make aggregate claims on. Machine learning models are not the bastions of truth, nor are their datasets.

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        Thing is, even if he is good at media criticism, there’s no stakes for him. Nobody knows who he is, what he looks like, he has nothing on the line, and his credibility in his primary occupation cannot be harmed if he is wrong.

        This reads like an argument against open source projects in general lol

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          You can trivially verify that an open-source project works. Good luck verifying a subjective rating.

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        Machine learning has nothing to do with this. I am referring to academics who study journalism, communication, political science, or sociology.

        And it’s doesn’t really matter who he is at this point, the product he created works well and continues to be a reliable source to interrogate media sources.

        I am happy that a person is able to create such a useful product, maintain it and continue to prove reliability in the product, and maintain anonymity. I certainly would want to remain anonymous if I was creating something that actively worked to check people’s information bias.

        But it’s an irrelevant discussion: who he is doesn’t really matter when evaluating the work of the site itself.

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          “[MBFC’s] subjective assessments leave room for human biases, or even simple inconsistencies, to creep in. Compared to Gentzkow and Shapiro, the five to 20 stories typically judged on these sites represent but a drop of mainstream news outlets’ production.” - Columbia Journalism Review

          “Media Bias/Fact Check is a widely cited source for news stories and even studies about misinformation, despite the fact that its method is in no way scientific.” - PolitiFact journalists

          MBFC is used when analyzing a large swathe of data because they have ratings for basically every news outlet. There, if a quarter or a third of the data is wrong, you can still generate enough signal to separate from noise.

          It absolutely matters who is running a site because there’s an inherent accountability for journalism. There’s a reason you don’t see NYT articles from “Anonymous Ostrich.”

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            I accept your point about why it matters who runs the site. I would just argue that in this case, it’s not as relevant because the goal seems to legitimately be information transparency, which is consistently delivered across its work. Its findings are at least generally reproducible. But no it’s not scientific. I believe I’ve stated that already, however it’s a good indication of reliability of a source.

            Yes, human bias creeps in, hence my point of using it alongside general media literacy and critical thinking when evaluating media.

            It aggregates and analyzes a ton of sources, and gives generally accurate information about how they are funded, where they are based, and how well the cite original sources. These are all things that can be corroborated by a somewhat systematic reading of the sources themselves.

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              An LLM also “aggregates and analyzes a ton of sources, and gives generally accurate information about how they are funded, where they are based, and how well the cite original sources.”

              That doesn’t make an LLM a useful source.

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                  We don’t allow LLM-generated summaries as news stories. Do the legwork, use these tools to start if you want to, but don’t cite them as though they are gospel.

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                    What are you talking about? LLMs have no bearing in this conversation, you brought them up.

                    Are you saying that you don’t allow people to use tools to evaluate media; and share their reasons for scepticism?

                    The bit that I quoted from MBFC is factual information (the story’s sponsors and an assessment of reliability), which I used to begin a conversation about the source.

                    Which upon further discussion was, indeed, ultimately sourced to a Syrian governmental agency, which is then been repeated by various governmental sources. There has not yet been any evidence to support the allegations made by the original source, which supports MBFC assertion that the original news agency does not often provide reliable (by journalistic standards) justification for its news stories. It seems like a really weird idea for you to so vehemently oppose a resource that enables critical thinking.

                    The news article is an extension of at least one state agency, and there are critiques of its truthfulness. That’s the takeaway from my original comment.

                    I feel like I’m repeating myself, but I literally cannot fathom a good faith justification for not allowing a widely accepted tool for media literacy to be allowed here. (For clarity, I’m talking about MBFC, not any LLM stuff, which only serves to obfuscates things.)

                    This is all true, and comes