What we’re really lacking on the ui end is a way to see groups of identical communities that are on different federated platforms. Hence the idea of a dom-lemmy. The way it would work is lets say you search for a cat community called “cats”, there’s at least dozens of them out there already. Instead it would return the cats dom-lemmy, with the option to either drill down to a specific instance, or to merge all sub-lemmys called cats into a single view
I don’t disagree with the idea, but your terminology needs a bit of tweaking lol.
Yeah, obviously dub is a superior format to sub.
NANI?!
That isn’t where I thought you were going to say at all. :P
Dom and sub lemmy? 🥵
Federate me, daddy! 👄
switch-lemmies: It is just an imageboard environment
the users will organically migrate to the most popular sublemmy over time & the rest will close or be ignored.
I sure hope not. It does seem to be leaning that way, but it would sort of defeat the purpose of decentralization right? I guess you can’t change the course of the river. I started a small instance with a focus on gardening, and it’s growing slowly. I wonder if smaller instances would grow more evenly if they were focused on regions/ countries/ cities or with a focus on topics? Either way it’s interesting! We’re just getting started here. Things are going to change. I wonder what we’ll say a year from now.
I have nothing to contribute to the actual conversation, I just wanted to point out the way you worded that your “gardening instance is growing slowly” was funny.
I think communities will naturally move to larger subsbutt as soon as a controversial choice is made by the mods it will split off again.
Its also important to note that all the biggest subs shouldn’t be on the same instance
Humans tend to congregate so this behaviour is reflected in the online world.
In the days before Reddit ‘won’ you used to be able to find tons of niche sites/boards cultivating smaller audiences. Beer advocate/rate beer, headfi and whatever the latest splinter was there in the audiophile community both come to mind. There’s generally more division by which each might find more ‘aligned’ or maybe their friends are on one first.
I don’t know if it’s possible to predict, social dynamics are weird and this is going to be new for a giant segment of the audience.
Any grouping of communities/magazines should happen client-side only. So that people can choose what to group.
This is definitely something being discussed: https://github.com/LemmyNet/lemmy-ui/issues/1113
I personally don’t really stress over finding the different communities. I just subscribe to the ones that have a critical mass of users or - if there isn’t a community with a lot of users - I just subscribe to the one local to me. If there isn’t one local to me, I just randomly pick one.
Same here. I think people put undue meaning on the idea of having one single canonical correct place for a topic. Classic FOMO.
Maybe communities could set, voluntarily, some sort of tags that can be subscribed to or used for search.
With that idea, cat memes, cat owners, cat pictures, etc. could all be viewed together if they include a #cat tag, regrouping them, but without a hierarchy.I don’t necessarily think that should be an automatic process—communities with the same name on different servers don’t necessarily mean the same thing (e.g., r/trees).
Communities with the same name on different instances aren’t necessarily about the same topic.
For sure, but it’d be cool to be able to bundle them as an option.
Kind of like hashtag groups on Instagram or mastodon I think does that?
Multi-communities would be a nice feature but I really don’t like people thinking it’s “the solution”.
Give it a little time, one community for every topic will emerge as the de facto place to go. Same happened on Reddit.
Besides, multi-communities kinda help browsing but not posting.
You know, not EVERYTHING has to be discussed in a way that puts your interest in kink on display for the world 👀
Respectfully, I disagree Mistress.
Now meow for me.
Woof!
Mega-lemmy or multi lemmy
Big lemmy
At first I thought this was a good idea, but now I’m not sure. Instead of encouraging the need for that sort of manual work to group every similar community for every topic, I think we should let the communities naturally converge on the winning community.
Why does there need to be one community to rule them all? A thousand communities on a topic with a thousand users each is much better for usability than 1 community with 1 million users. More people get to actually engage with others, be seen, and be heard in smaller communities.
Mega-communities are just white noise machines.
Because if I subscribe to all of them, sometimes I will see 100 identical posts of the relevant news. And if I subscribe to just one, then I’m missing out on a lot of content.
You’re also missing out on a lot of content by not seeing the vast, vast majority of posts that never get noticed.
And you’re missing all of the posts posted on Facebook groups!
And all of the posts posted to Hacker News!
And all of the posts on…
Okay, but I see no reason to intentionally make that issue worse.
And I see no reason to turn spaces that can be used for meaningful activity into ones that can’t be.
I’m not saying those spaces can’t be used. Ideally each instance would end up with its own set of popular communities that have become the one true community. But it’s a much better user experience if every instance doesn’t have all of the communities from every other instance duplicated.