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      Even Prigozhin said that the supposed genocide in Donbas is 100% a Russian propaganda fabrication. Stop parroting that bullshit.

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          I also think cake tastes good which aligns me straight with Hitler.

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            You didn’t need to cite hitler as the cake lover, could have picked anyone else

            You didn’t have to pick the fascist mercenary army leader to agree with you on the other one, either. Yet you did for some reason

            Is this supposed to prove anything but you have no scruples?

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              I mean hexbears are otherwise so willing to take Russian sources at face value, e.g. when it comes to claims about Russian speakers getting supposedly oppressed and genocided by the Ukrainian state… then why not trust Pregozhin? What makes him less trustworthy than Solovyov?

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                I can’t speak for everyone, but I definitely don’t find Russian media particularly trustworthy, we like to do a little thing called critical thinking instead of just blindly accepting things

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                Russian media is untrustworthy and I’ve yet to meet a hexbear user that says otherwise. We just also recognize American media to be untruswot. Good thing we’re able to critique our sources and think critically

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          Oh there’s plenty of other reasons to impeach Trump. Why would he even be impeached over that, though. I don’t really follow US news, it’s silly over there.

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            His first impeachment was over him extracting personal political benefit from sending weapons to Ukraine that they were using to carry out their ethnic cleansing

            If the ethnic cleansing were 100% fabricated by Russian propaganda then the Hillary Cliintons of the USA are Putin bots.

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              You are aware that Russia already invaded in 2014? That this war has been going on for a while? Why wouldn’t the US send Ukraine aid to defend itself?

              Regarding the US reaction back then in general, though: Why didn’t the US enforce the Budapest memorandum?

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                You are aware that Russia already invaded in 2014?

                No they didn’t. They were already there. The biggest feature of Crimea is the naval base that Russia had been leasing since Ukraine had a legitimately elected government. When the US supported Nazi led coup regime took power they tried to cancel the lease. The Russians simply stayed put. They didn’t invade. They were already there.

                Are there any more fundamental understandings of recent history you would like me to catch you up on?

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                  You realise that Crimea is larger than Sevastopol and Donetsk and Luhansk are not on Crimea?

                  Also, that “US supported Nazi coup” is 100% Russian propaganda not backed by anything but fantasy?

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            Ever wonder why they impeached him over some bullshit most people didn’t give a fuck about in a country most people didn’t know existed at the time instead of the mountains of evidence of his predatory behavior?

            didnt-kill-himself

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              No. Yanks impeached a President over a blowjob, that is, any- and everything.

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        Nobody said there was a genocide as far as I know, but there were many ethnic cleansing attempts.

        On the contrary calling Russia activities “genocide” was very common. Programmed morons.

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          Ethnic cleansing of Russian speakers by what, a Russian-speaking army?

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              No such law was ever passed. You might be missing some details such as the Ukrainian army largely operating in Russian.

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                  And that law forbids people from speaking Russian… how?

                  Ukraine is in full compliance with the ECRML. Russia isn’t even a signatory.

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                    And that law forbids people from speaking Russian… how?

                    Love how liberals act really fucking smart 99% of the time and suddenly get really fucking stupid as soon as their shit is called on.

                    How about a friendly game of whataboutism? What about if the US right wing succeeded in making English the official language of the United States? What would happen to all the people who speak Spanish primarily?

                    (Psst… are we not talking about the killings then? All the pogroms and murders sure seem to have gotten left on the wayside of this conversation.)

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                    This ECRML?

                    The European Charter for Regional or Minority Languages (ECRML) is a European treaty (CETS 148) adopted in 1992 under the auspices of the Council of Europe

                    Huh, wonder what the Council of Europe thinks of Ukraine’s language law:

                    The Venice Commission, the Council of Europe’s top advisory body on constitutional matters, said that several of the law’s articles, including article 25, “failed to strike a fair balance” between promoting the Ukrainian language and safeguarding minorities’ linguistic rights.

                    You have no clue what you’re talking about. Maybe sit down and listen a little?

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            By a Ukrainian Nazi army. Are you not aware of this? This is basic stuff you need to know before commenting.

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          “You and I know what is happening in Donbass,” referring to the conflict zone in the east of the country, adding that: “It certainly looks like genocide.”

          Putin has previously made similar comparisons about the war in eastern Ukraine including in 2015 and 2019.

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        the supposed genocide in Donbas is 100% a Russian propaganda fabrication

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