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  • Yeah, thereā€™s a similar issue from the other side (at least in my country) - Men will usually apply for a job if they donā€™t meet all the requirements, while women wonā€™t tend to do so.

    Going on a tangent off ā€œThe traits that people typically associate with success in leadership, such as assertiveness and strength" (from the article), that almost sounds like something form the 50s - ā€œLook here Johnson, I need those forms, and I need them yesterday, now get moving!ā€. Traits I associate with leadership (at least in high-skill modern work place) are good communication and motivation skills, ability to plan ahead and multi-tasking/ability to prioritize. Sure, once in a while a manager has to bang their fist against the table, but the real skill isnā€™t in banging on the table as hard as you can, itā€™s the ability get what you want without needing to do so in the first place. Point being that, if anything, women are better managers.


  • Thing is, There are less women in STEM, there are less women in management position etc. Therefor, either women are less interested/worse at these things (which is the conservative view) or society itself treats women differently than men. The rational behind affirmative action and programs geared towards women isnā€™t that women are less skilled and therefore need more help, rather that society makes it harder for a woman achieve the same as a similarly skilled man. By treating women differently we can help level the playing field.

    Also, making gender ā€œas unimportant as eye color in most things in lifeā€ is a completely unrealistic goal in the near future even in the most liberal countries in the world. We can (and do) strive to reach it, but thatā€™s not a viable solution for issues we have right now.

    And you know what? Legally changing your gender SHOULD be harder than filling a form. Someone whoā€™s transgender should have no problem showing thatā€™s what they are. The thing is to make sure the legal process is done respectfully, without making the person feel like theyā€™re being interrogated.


  • First, Ask the colleague why she feels her way is better.

    If she says something like ā€œit just isā€, reply that while youā€™re open to other ways to do things, you have a way that currently works for you, and would need a reason to switch your workflows.

    If she gives an actual answer, consider it. Maybe it is better than what youā€™re use to. maybe itā€™s possible to incorporate both ways to have the best of both worlds. Assuming you still think you way is better, say something along the lines of (Iā€™m basing this on something I said to a co-worker in order not to be too abstract): ā€œI get that doing it your way [is simpler and requires less troubleshooting], but it can also [give wrong results if a thing changes and we forget to correct for it]. My way [corrects for it automatically]. For me, eliminating the risk of [forgetting to manually correct] is worth the need to [do some troubleshooting]. Maybe thatā€™s because you have [better memory] and Iā€™m better at [technical stuff], so we each have a way that works for us, but will not work for the other. I appreciate that you took the time and explained your way of thinking, and I hope you understand why my way is better for meā€.

    After that, if she still insists, tell her you clearly arenā€™t able to come to an agreement among yourselves, so maybe itā€™s better you both talk to the charge nurse if manager or whatever.



  • I think that depends on the groups that exist near you.

    I know someone who was in a similar situation (divorced around 50), and she found a local hiking group of divorced people who wanted exactly what youā€™re looking for. So maybe ask on a local group on some social networks?

    Hiking specifically is great because itā€™s an activity that both kinda forces people to talk, and also supplies a default topic for conversation (Itā€™s also free, healthy and doesnā€™t require special skills). If youā€™re not into hiking, maybe a book club? Volunteering groups, like other people suggested, also fits that bill. Point is, donā€™t just look for [an activity] with people your age, think about how much that activity is conductive for making friends. Something with 10% people your age, but that encourages talking with each other, might be better than something with 90% people your age where the group listens to a teacher together and then everybody does their own thing separately.

    Also, It might actually get easier to find new people in a few years. Some people wait for their kids to grow up/move out before divorcing, which creates a spike of single people at that age.



  • Iā€™m going to offer some practicalĀ advice that might help, but first there are also a few things Iā€™d like to point out.

    First of all, from reading your question and some replies in the thread - Is there any chance you might be neurodivergent (I think thatā€™s the ā€œproperā€ term. I mean whatā€™s been known as low end autismĀ or asperger)?Ā  Neurodivergent people have trouble understanding social cues/norms,and might have issues understanding why people act/react the way they do.

    This is meant as a general observation that might be beneficial to understand the gap between you and other people, not as a judgment or way to imply thereā€™s something wrong with you.

    The second thing - the divisionĀ betweenĀ introverts and extroverts is kinda false. In reality, itā€™s likeĀ height - there are tall and short people, but most people are of generally average height. Like height, most people are towards the middle. You are probably on the end of the bell curve of extrovert-introvert. Thatā€™s something you need to understand. This also doesnā€™tĀ mean thereā€™s something wrong with you, but right now it looks like youā€™re acting like a 2.2 meter tall person who thinks everyone below 2 meters is short. Yes, societyĀ is built for people who are of mostly average ā€œsocialityā€. Just like itā€™s built for people of mostly average height, and tall people might have issues finding clothes or having enoughĀ leg room in their car.

    Most people expect some level of sociality with their co-workers. They arenā€™t necessary attention seekers or ā€œextrovertsā€. Thatā€™s just the way their brains are wired. When they donā€™t get that social interaction, they will look for an explanation - Did they say something to offend you? Are you busy? In a bad mood? A standoffish person? Maybe youā€™re just shy, and they should initiateĀ more interaction to make you more comfortable?

    So, what you want to do is to answer those unasked questions in terms they can understand and without offending them. Imagine youā€™ve accidentally bumped into someone while walking. Youā€™ll say something like ā€œOh, Iā€™m so sorry for bumping into you, I was in a hurry. Are you alright? OK, sorry, again, have to runā€.

    If someone asks ā€œHow was your weekend?ā€, give a bland answer like ā€œOh, it was good/fine/okā€, then say ā€œSorry, I donā€™t mean to sound rude, but thereā€™s a ton of stuff I need to get doneā€Ā Say this in a tone like youā€™re apologizing for accidentally bumping into them. Then say ā€œBut look, if youā€™d like some help/advice/to tell me something about that [work relatedĀ thing we have], Iā€™d be happy toā€. For most people, this conveys the message that (a) youā€™re trying to focus on work, (b) you really donā€™t mean to offend them and Ā© youā€™d be happy to talk to them about work related stuff. Some people might ask you again next week. Give the same answer. Most of them will figure out youā€™re just always busy working and stop bothering you.

    Two more things:

    1. Do try and offer help in work related things once in a while - ā€œHey, I heard [work thing] is giving you trouble. Iā€™ve actually had the same issue and would be happy to helpā€. This conveys youā€™re approachable on work-related things, and will make people more inclined to help you when needed.

    2. Walk fast and with a purpose. This serves a dual objective - to better convey that youā€™re always busy, and minimize interactions. The only question youā€™ll get is ā€œwhy are you walking so fast?ā€ or whatever. This can be handled by saying something casual like ā€œyou call this fast?ā€, ā€œah, you know how it isā€¦ā€ etc. without slowing down more than necessary.


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    So about that Amnesty reportā€¦?

    Anyway, after calling me a ā€œcartoon villain Naziā€ I donā€™t really think this discussion can go anywhere. so Iā€™ll go a bit off-topic and say something other readers might find interesting:

    About a month ago, I spoke with a Palestinian work-buddy (yes, Palestinian Israelis work with Israeli Jews. In the the same jobs and with the same pay. Apartheid).

    I asked him how heā€™s doing, as heā€™s not only living in Israel (and therefor a missile can hit his family as well as mine. Yet another area where Palestinian-Israelis and Jewish-Israelis are no different), he has the added bonus of fearing some psycho Jewish supremacist attacking him. He mentioned that the police are monitoring social media, and summoning for investigation Israeli-Palestinian influences who show support for Hamas, threaten them with charges and release them. Me, a cartoon villain Nazi bleeding heart liberal: ā€œwow, I donā€™t think anyone in their right mind should support Hamas, but summoning people and releasing them without charges just to threaten themā€¦ yeah, thatā€™s roughā€.

    He replied ā€œNo, you donā€™t understand, that wasnā€™t a criticism. Iā€™m saying thatā€™s a good thing. If thatā€™ll help stop a replay of two years ago [social networks played a large part in encouraging Palestinians to riot. The riots caused a surge in anti-Palestinian violence among Jews], Iā€™m all for itā€ . Iā€™m still not sure how I feel about that.

    Not saying every Palestinian is like him and every Jew is like me. Justā€¦ yeah, itā€™s complicated.



  • State security - OTHER is indeed not a real charge at all.

    What does that mean? It appears in the Israeli law, so itā€™s as ā€œrealā€ as any other charge. You could say itā€™s not a justifiable charge, but that wasnā€™t her claim. She didnā€™t say ā€œI was arrested for an unjustifiable chargeā€, rather ā€œI was arrested without chargeā€.

    The word espionage exists as a charge, it is not in her charge.

    I think thatā€™s like saying ā€œThe word Murder exists as a charge, it is not in her chargeā€ when talking about homicide. Not sure though.

    Jailing someone for even 3 months without process is completely insane

    Not ā€œwithout processā€, ā€œwithout trailā€. Itā€™s not uncommon for prisoners being held 3 months only to have the charges dropped (regardless of nationality).

    Afterwards you go on a journey dismissing this heinous court system as okay

    ā€œwhat can be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidenceā€. Not saying there arenā€™t any issues with the way Palestinians are treated in the Israeli court system, but you made some specific claims that I disagree with, and didnā€™t give any evidence.

    Donā€™t look up the Amnesty report damming Israel for killing their hostages without process in jail.

    Sorry, but I actually did try to look it up, and wasnā€™t able to. Could you please link to it?

    The closet thing I was able to find is this, which refers to Palestinian prisoners as, well, prisoners. So even if itā€™s not the right report, it would seem Amnesty themselves donā€™t refer to Palestinian prisoners as ā€œhostagesā€. Could we at least agree on that?

    BTW, I didnā€™t read through the full report, but I find myself agreeing to most of the thing said (most werenā€™t news to me).

    Iā€™m not trying to say Israel did nothing wrong. Israel has done PLENTY of immoral things, and is currently doing plenty of immoral things. Iā€™m saying that Israel isnā€™t some devil that wants to kill all Palestinians, and has zero regard for their lives (though some Israeli are). Itā€™s extremely complicated.


  • The op in this thread said: ā€œThe Palestinians are getting combatants who were arrested for other attacks by and large."

    Right, but you said ā€œThe misinformation is calling all the released Palestinians combatants. That seems like the Israeliā€™s talking point here, which is a fabrication.ā€ I have no reason to assume OP is Israeli. But even if he is, he isnā€™t representative of most Israeli sources (to the best of my knowledge).

    Is there an index for which apartheid states are better than others? That seems like an interesting index.

    I was referring to the The Economist Democracy Index. As of 2022, Israel is in the high end of flawed democracies (between Portugal and the US). Not saying thatā€™s the end-all-be-all of democratic Indices, but it is the most widely known and commonly used, so itā€™s a good rule of thumb.


  • Youā€™re right, calling all the released prisoners ā€œPalestinians combatantsā€ would be wrong. Can you please point me to a source calling them that? I only saw something similar in far right Israeli news sites, who call them ā€œterroristsā€ (all other sites call them ā€œprisonersā€).

    Yes, all of these people are charged by the Israeli state, an apartheid state oppressing the Palestinian people. They can make up whatever charges they want. Who believes them?

    If we assume a state-wide conspiracy, any state can make up whatever charges it wants. Thereā€™s no real way to prove thatā€™s wrong. However, there are a few indicators I can think of - whatā€™s the democracy index of said state? is that stateā€™s judiciary system regarded internationally as being generally good? Do other democratic states believe said state? Has said state been caught in many lies regarding its judiciary system?

    Going by these indicators, Israelā€™s status is at least OK. Not perfect, and if youā€™d like I can point out quite a few issues, especially regarding the treatment of Palestinians, but they do not ā€œmake upā€ charges as a general modus operandi.


  • Yeah, Iā€™d like to address that.

    This message turned out a bit longer than I intended, but I really tried to give the best answer I can.

    First off, the video takes statements from the Palestinians released and conveyed them as-is. Itā€™s extremely hard to verify things like that, so thereā€™s absolutely no basis saying my comment is a ā€œblatant lieā€ unless you automatically assume every Palestinians statement is the objective truth. If thatā€™s the case, feel free to skip the rest of this post as thereā€™s nothing I can say to make you re-evaluate your position.

    I could just say ā€œIf you claim Palestinians have been kidnapped without any evidence or charges and held as hostage, please show me some evidence instead of unsubstantiated claims made by a party who has a vested interest in making false claimsā€. I thing thatā€™s a valid claim, but as you can see, I do have a bit more to say. Iā€™ve actually tried to check her statement when the video was posted earlier (not so I could argue about it, just to be informed).

    First off, many of the Palestinians approved for release have been charged with serious crimes (some, though they might not have been release yet, as Israel is trying to release them from least serious to most serious). Even Al-Jazeera said most Palestinians released were charged with ā€œsmallā€ crimes such as throwing rocks. So which is it - Are Palestinians being kidnapped without charges, or are they being charged with minor crimes? If some were kidnapped and some were legally arrested, would calling them ā€œhostagesā€ not be as inaccurate as calling them ā€œprisonersā€?

    Thereā€™s only one Palestinian who said she was held without charges, not ā€œmanyā€ as you claimed. Itā€™s also worth noting she said she was ā€œdue to be released in Octoberā€, so I think itā€™s odd calling her a ā€œhostageā€ (hostages usually donā€™t get released if a certain time has passed. thatā€™s more correctly called a ā€œdetaineeā€).

    Going from her age and arrest date, thereā€™s only one 24yo female Palestinian who was detained in October and approved for release. I wonā€™t try to write her name in English, as thereā€™s 0% chance Iā€™ll get it right, but in Hebrew itā€™s ×Øגד נשא×Ŗ צלאח אל פני (copy-paste the name to find her details, which can be translated via google translate).

    Assuming thatā€™s her, she was charged with ā€œState security - otherā€, which is a general charge that can include espionage, giving information to the enemy, inciting violence and more. I will admit itā€™s a general charge, and the fact she was due to be released shows the Israeli state wasnā€™t able to make it stick.

    So why did she say she was being held without a charge? Donā€™t know. Maybe in her mind ā€œstate securityā€ isnā€™t a valid charge. Maybe she was exaggerating. Maybe sheā€™s lying (yes, even oppressed people can lie). Maybe she was told her charge would be amended (that makes sense. As I said, ā€œState securityā€ is a general crime). Or maybe I found the wrong person. The point is, I did really try to find more information based on the video, and was unable to substantiate her claims. If you have any other source for similar claims, Iā€™d be very interested to hear about them.

    I live in Israel, and Iā€™ll agree that a lot of times Palestinians are treated badly. Iā€™m even prone to think the person in the video should have been freed after 3 months instead of 12. That said, thereā€™s a far cry from that to saying Palestinians are kidnapped without evidence and being held without trial.


  • The question was about why are Palestinians in Israel are called ā€œprisonersā€ and Israelis in Gaza are ā€œhostagesā€, in the context of the people exchanged during the truce. The person I replied to said some ā€œprisonersā€ in Israel are held without trial, to which I replied they are not called ā€œprisonersā€, and are not part of the exchange.

    Soā€¦ could you explain the point youā€™re trying to make? If thatā€™s just some general point about Israel treating Palestinians unjustly, thatā€™s fine (I actually agree with you to some extent), but I donā€™t see how that has to do with the difference between two specific groups of Palestinians and Israelis.


  • Yes, but also no.

    Palestinians who are held without trial are held in administrative detention, thatā€™s usually done if the person poses an immediate danger, but the evidence isnā€™t up to the legal standard (a judge still has to approve the arrest). Itā€™s also used against Jewish citizens (though admittedly much less. IIRC there are two Jews held in administrative detention right now).

    Absolutely none of the Palestinians held in administrative detention are about to be set free, and they arenā€™t regarded as ā€œstandardā€ prisoners (they are always referred as ā€œadministrative detaineesā€, never ā€œprisonersā€).


  • Hi, Israeli here. You didnā€™t really point out any misinformation, the linked article just gives some (IMO wrong and even misleading) context.

    The majority of the rest of the names are of boys aged 16-18. However, there are also boys as young as 14 on the list.

    The 14 year old kid was charged for hostile sabotage activity, gathering or association, attacking a police officer under serious circumstances, throwing stones, negligence and general recklessness, maliciously or negligently causing damage to property, arson on nationalistic grounds, weapons/ammunition/explosives. Also, itā€™s worth noting his trial was ongoing.

    Prisoners have been convicted of crimes including carrying and manufacturing knives and daggers. Other common offenses detailed in Israelā€™s list include [ā€¦]

    Ehhā€¦ technically true, but very misleading. Usually, there are a few charges, some more serious than others. The 14yo kid could be described as ā€œcharged with negligence and general recklessnessā€, but that wouldnā€™t be the whole picture. Hereā€™s a link to a list of 300 prisoners due to be released. Itā€™s in Hebrew, but copy-pasting into google translate is good enough to understand the charges:

    https://www.gov.il/he/departments/dynamiccollectors/is-db?skip=0

    In the first page, there are 2 prisoners charged with carrying and manufacturing knives and daggers. Both are also charged with attempted murder (one is 17 years old, btw).

    And regarding ā€œassociating with hostile/unknown organisationsā€, from what I could tell, this means that the prisoner was charged with being affiliated with Hamas. Hamas is considered a terrorist group in the US, UK, Canada and Australia (Not to mention they massacred more than 1,000 citizens). So this might be my Israeli bias speaking, butā€¦ whatā€™s unreasonable with throwing them to prison? Would being affiliated with ISIS or Al-Qaeda not carry a prison sentence?

    ā€œThe main alleged crime for these detentions is stone-throwing, which can carry a 20-year sentence in prison for Palestinian children,ā€ said a report published in July by childrenā€™s rights organisation, Save the Children.

    Yes, ā€œcan carryā€. A 20 year sentence is only applicable if the rocks were thrown at a moving vehicle with intent to cause harm. without proving intent, the sentence is 10 years. Children are not explicitly mentioned (though the reality is that most rock throwers are minors). In practice, the courts try to avoid sentencing minors who are charged mainly with rock throwing to prison, and even when they are sentenced to prison itā€™s for a few months.



  • My cat can almost definitely tell time within about 2 minuts. At least for a specific time of day. He gets canned food the same time every day, and will remind me Iā€™ve yet to feed him at most 2 minuts after (unless heā€™s asleep). The only clocks I have in the house are digital, and none makes a sound. It takes him a few days to adjust moving to and form daylight savings time, and the change is gradual. He does this after changing apartments, so itā€™s not some noise form the outside. I have no explanation other than he can tell time.