My dad was a farmer. I AM AN ORPHAN.

Edit: Ok, I feel bad. But like… I know one dumbass with a cough that won’t go away (7 years and counting) because they wouldn’t effing listen to me about DE, another who rolled his tractor on to himself and died. Don’t take it lightly man. The bill always comes due. We all do what we have to, lord knows I’ve done some dumb shit, but it ain’t cute to dismiss it.

Yeet that into the rizzophere, no cap fr fr

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Yeah agree. They’re kind of sold as a cure all, which they’re not, but if you have a very specific problem they’ll help. I think the thing is a lot of times people use them without addressing the root cause. But it’s definitely saved me a deep clean before.

Wanted to add to this: if it can’t go away, it’s likley you can set up quite a long repayment at 0% interest. It will still hurt but at you can spread it out

Absolutely. But that also skirts the fact that the economy, globally, depends on rent in Manhattan being high. Like as shitty as the rent is, the bigger problem is how much of that “you’re paying someone else mortgage” thing is true and wayyyyy over optimized.

Roll into that the fact that the whole rising/uninsurable thing in Florida is come for literally everywhere near sea level… Which is every major metro in the usa… It’s a problem.

Lmfao. Points for clarity I guess? Thanks for the laugh.

Look I’m happy for you, but I’m from an area where this is all very different from where I ended up.

Im sorry, but I do think thats a massive part of this conversation. There are plenty of places where housing is still affordable, but relocation is a thing, and more importantly, so is the tie to pensions funds and investment in major metros.

All of that to say, I’m glad to say it worked out for you and yours, but it’s just not relevant in this conversation, at least as long as social security requires people changing tires in Atlanta Georgia.

I’m not attacking you for something that worked for you, but trying to offer perspective.

Do you know that medical debt doesn’t show up on your credit score but does show up on a mortgage?

But more important: imagine you’re a nurse living paycheck to paycheck in a major metro. You’ll never be able to own where you live.

OK, so move to demoines, we’ll, if they all do that the realestate prices collapse, and it’s in such a situation that the 401ks for people in demoines nose dive… That’s where we’re at.

So you got a zero percent loan requiring no collateral for a piece of land? I’m happy for you, but you do realize how few people that’s available to right?

The answer is qualifying for a mortgage is not as simple as you might think. Even if you do, good luck squaring that with prices that will almost certainly leave you “holding the bag” because none of it is sustainable ore makes sense. Wrap that into the best choice when you might get laid off at any second is not always a mortgage…

That last point seems like it’s a great point for what rentals but I’ll save you some time: for the vast majority of jobs thats strictly because of people enforcing office mandates unnecessarily because something like 1/3rd of assets in the USA are in commercial realestate.

My point being: the deck is stacked. There is not an actual housing shortage, there’s just a housing shortage for human beings. An entire generation has gotten boxed out of the most classic way to build wealth.

Are you familiar with relative value units (RVUs)?

If not prepare to be furious. It essentially is Healthcare on commission. Everytime a physician orders a test, provides a service, etc, it counts towards an RVU quota. Multiple systems in my area base 100% of a physicians salary on meeting that quota. The minimum one bases 15% of the physicians salary on meeting that quota.

You know, we’re not required to do that but because of you I just ordered some locks and labels for the field kit (edit: as well as breaker locks).

Our stuff is always temp (8-12mo) and on a dedicated line. The sites we’re on always involve coordinating with the clients appropriate people and specifically stating we’re not trained in this to their standards (which is why I know some of this stuff but not to the letter), but an extra layer is always a good idea. No harm ever came from an extra lock that couldn’t be fixed.

Thanks.

edit: for the record it’s not like we’re negligent, everything in our system is designed to fail-safe, and we compartmentalize power delivery, but still, no harm in a few extra items in the kit.

Thought so. I work around this stuff but my end of it usually low voltage/low pressure/ low risk. We should observe it more but usually we just have someone that LOTOs anything going to us.

But yeah, and for anyone else, repairs can wind up being more complicated than anticipated, parts arrive late, etc. It’s not uncommon for these to be in place for weeks sometimes when say, electrical starts something, but then plumbing needs to finish whatever before the pump motor hookup can be complete. Before you know it it’s 2 weeks later, electrical had a bunch of other jobs. The LOTO makes sure they come and inspect before unlocking rather than go “yeahhhh I’m pretty sure we left that ready to turn on, go for it” plus making sure no other work got screwed up (like a wire conduit getting drilled into by plumbing).

To be sure, handing off the keys does happen, but if and when it happens there’s the weight of “by handing this off you’re personally taking responsibility”.

I think it’s so you can create “and” conditions for unlocking. IE: If you’ve got two locks, each with their own key, both person 1 AND person 2 need to unlock it. So you can have multiple people and/or multiple crews working on the machine across different aspects. Maybe one crew is doing electric, the other some kind of plumbing, and they’re working at different times. When one crew finishes their work, they can release their lockout without making it unsafe for the other crew.

… I had never thought about it this way. You’re totally correct though. I spend way more time fighting with my windows machine than I do my linux these days. I also just have a lot less patience fighting it because it’s always due to some dumb shit it didn’t need to be doing in the first place.

Yes, sorry, I did oversimplify to the local network. On your local network everything is always listening, but absolutely your home router/modem in Kansas does NOT excite some wires in Tokyo unless you tell it to lol.

And it sounds like you know way more about the software than I do, but I can say with confidence that when a router starts putting ossilating high/low on a cable, everything on that cable “sees” it. I’m fairly sure that’s why different address blocks have the limits they do; there’s only so many addresses you can have without needing to ossiclate that voltage stupid fast.

You should look into some of the serial examples for raspberry pis/ arduinos, with your software background you’d probably really enjoy it! It’s funny to run into things like the fact that you can have issues like the wire not going back to low sometimes, and the myriad physical issues.

And seriously check out MODBUS. It’s crazy how “simple” it is. With no handshake and a standardized data format, you can trigger all sorts of stuff. That’s the protocol that controls most people industrial things, including GIANT pumps and valves.

I wrote up a whole thing that didn’t post. There’s good answers here but I think that, like me, you wanted a more “voltage based” one.

Short answer is they don’t. Everything on the network is always listening, and security is based solely off of a handshake. Everything is always employing a fancy multimeter that measures voltage high/low as a 1/0 turning it from bits to bytes etc. The router listens to that and decides where to send it upstream, which it isolates from downstream.

For a realllllly basic example look at the modbus protocol. That’s also why industrial equipment folks get real touchy about network access. For things like computers, theres talk back and forth to verify. Modbus is just “if the byte is the thing I do the thing”. But fundamentally, that’s the physical basis: all devices are always listening, the TCP/IP stack is what tells them what to disregard.

“enclosure acting as dwelling without permit” : mouse got in and died bud.

You’re not wrong lmfao. But it’s exactly like “I don’t need a helmet, I simply won’t get hit”.

Im not convinced with this much juice it would have made a difference, and if you’re committed to doing it this way you ARE probably better off doing whatever helps you avoid the worst, not mitigating it, BUT there are a LOT of stories of people who have been saved by best practices.

Every line of Osha (or whatever it is in your country) is written in blood.

I’m newer to linux, and kind of a moron, but I 1) bounced off Ubuntu and 2) haven’t seen this crap with Debian.