This looks great actually. Thank you!

This looks really, really, great. Thank you!

I did have a look at this, right on their front page it says “focal board is now mattermost boards” or something, this one in particular really does look like part of a larger ecosystem. Even the github repo is being retired as it’s being merged into mattermost server or something.

It’s as though this proposal was dreamed up by someone who has never installed anything on their PC.

Like are they going to block entire repositories? When you apt get install x from within france to they expect repositories to magically give you the french version?

You don’t even need to do that though. It would be the “fork” that contains the blocking, surely.

Weird take.

So adapt to some specific one

I guess I’m asking for recommendations as to which will be the easiest to adapt to.

Is this really true?

Twilio is the biggest sms back end and it’s like $10 per number month or something.

Australia also, South West corner. Water is fine to drink, I just don’t like the taste. We collect rain water instead - heaps of that.

The bulk of reddit has already gone back to reddit.

Don’t get me wrong, lemmy is great just the way it is. We don’t need a continued influx from reddit (although lets see what happens on 1 July).

You’re right in a way, but I think you’re applying a narrow definition of “opinion” when I think most people ITT are thinking about “behaviours”.

Sure, it’s not great to exclude dissenting political opinions, the intolerance paradox being a notable exception. That said, I’m not here to discuss politics.

Say for example that some users will do anything for fake internet points - post anything, say anything, there behaviour is guided by the pursuit of karma and building some kind of following. Other users will do anything for engagement, whatever it takes to get others to engage with them including trolling. I’m happy enough for these types of users to find more rewarding platforms elsewhere. Note that’s different to excluding them, it’s just being a part of a place that isn’t fertile ground for their fixations.

This sounds fantastic to me.

It’s pretty much what happened on mastodon with the twitter-storm in November.

Huge influx of new users, about a third hung around - but it was the third who were the most like-minded.

eventually it’ll run dry - because the contributors are leaving the site

I somewhat disagree… you haven’t considered the increased incentive for occasional posters to become more regular contributors as existing contributors leave.

As the volume of contributions reduces, each contribution is more likely to garner engagement - those sweet sweet endorphins released when someone upvotes or otherwise engages with your post.

I agree. If lemmy continues to grow, inevitably some servers will be shit, but I imagine there will be other non-federated or less-federated instances. beehaw has already started down that path.

Trolls are generally looking for maximum carnage, so I imagine there’s less incentive / reward posting somewhere like lemmy.

This is happening all over reddit.

Mods are posting all over the place saying “I have to bend over for the admins because if I don’t they’ll find someone else who will”.

You do you but honestly I find this a bit weird. As an unpaid volunteer you don’t have to do anything. Just resign. Reddit’s not about to die but it’s best days are in the past. I wouldn’t want to be a part of the future of reddit.

The biggest problem I see is fragmentation, people are creating the same community in different instaces, /c/Piracy for example.

I agree, to an extent. You’re right in that if you were part of the vibrant community of /r/piracy then it’s miserable to see it shatter here on lemmy. That said, this only applies if you’re expecting lemmy to be a 1 for 1 reddit replacement. For this type of community to remain cohesive, /r/piracy would have had to spin up their own instance and in /r/piracy direct everyone to lemmy.piracyinstance.whatever.

You can’t really “fix” this in a central way because even if you did, it would be trivial to create an instance that would allow duplicate community names. Also, I can see a lot of use cases for lemmy which do not intend to be federated.

That said, it’s not necessarily as big a problem as it appears, if you just accept that this is how the fediverse works. There’s no single source of control, so of course people can create 147 different /c/piracy communities if they wish to. Once you accept that, then it’s not really that difficult to subscribe to all the /c/piracy communities you can find.

The problem itself could be diminished by a few new features which I feel certain will emerge in the future:

• linked communities, where one communities content is syndicated to another. So if you post in !selfhosted@lemmy.world then you also post in !selfhosted@lemmy.ml. This would work differently to cross-posting, all comments would be reflected on both instances.
• grouped communities, where you can subscribe to a group of /c/selfhosted communities with one click, so you see them all in your feed.

Hard disagree.

Getting over-run by blog spam is entirely foreseeable.

With a single dead mod it’s entirely foreseeable that we would have to relocate at some point which could be devastating when trying to preserve whatevers left of the community.

Looking at the list of instances there doesn’t seem to be any really perfect options.

Honestly I would be most comfortable with an instance administrated by several people. It just increases the odds that admins will know what they’re doing and not lose interest.

This is as good a place as any to ask… where should we set up shop? This community’s sole mod @Zoe8338@lemmy.ml doesn’t seem to be active.

A number of different self-hosting related communities have popped up in the last few days. I’m concerned that without a single focal point we won’t hit a critical mass.

Is this the best place for us though? @Zoe8338@lemmy.ml is the only mod and they don’t seem to be active.

Not really. It’s incredibly frustrating and I’ve def lost some faith in humanity.

I thought /r/selfhosted would be ready to jump but everyone is like “but there’s no users on lemmy” and “you’ll split the community” and “we’re going to go dark for two days - that will teach them!”

Consequently there’s been no support for any single refuge.

Additionally people have set up several communities here with similar names in the past but now mods aren’t responding so it’s all a bit of a mess.