Yea, me too. IME, there’s always something that comes out of it. For me, it’s half of the reason for the idea.

!learningrustandlemmy@lemmy.ml

It’s for learning rust (the programming language) and the lemmy code base itself as a sort of “reading club”. If you’re the type of person who might be interested there’s a good chance you’ve heard of it already. We’re currently working through The Book (conventional learning resource) through a couple of Twitch streams and regular posts/discussions.

More collaborative learning activity is plenty welcome!

I was ultimately ambivalent about Poor Things, but this one looks more like the Lanthimos I’ve enjoyed in the past. I think I’ll make an effort to see it in the cinema.

The interesting test will be when the Gunniverse starts

Was just thinking the same thing recently … inadvertently, that “project” seems perfectly timed to steer the industry in a moment of uncertainty. Like 2 “flops” from Gunn and that could be the clear beginning of the end of mainstream comic films. Great successes, and it’ll keep going for sure.

I wonder if Dune (at least part 2) is having any bearing on the industry … because I’d guess it isn’t at a broad level because that kind of content and film making is just not economical enough at the “cinematic universe” scale. But then again, are we going to see more classic and epic Sci-Fi/Fantasy stories being pushed out? Is some exec chucking a fit about why they don’t own the rights to Asimov’s Foundation?

Yea a scheduled discussion thread could work well. Don’t know what times works for people … but if it’s pinned and always posted at the same time or the same date of the month, I’d imagine it would work well.

Cheers!

Yea, great question. I’d guess that this is likely to be the biggest issue with the whole thing.

I personally don’t think one person can source a particular film for everyone. I think crowd sourcing availability options is realistically the only way to go.

What we might find out though is that the current streaming system is actually a regression from the days of video rental shops. In the past, many of the films we’d want to watch would have been available at the local shop. Some might have required some hunting but nothing too serious. And esoteric ones would have been hard to find and required an academic library or something.

Now, if you have to sign up to a different streaming service and potentially VPN for every different film you want to watch, that may become prohibitive for many and would really be a step backward however convenient the internet is otherwise.

I’m hoping it’s fine, and I’m also rather curious to see how it goes TBH.

I personally have found decent success in renting films off of Apple ITunes/TV. And I’ve also found a nearby old-school video rental with quite a good collection of DVDs and BlueRays. So I’ll probably be leveraging those. But I don’t know how available or desirable that is for many here or exactly what other options there are.

It will certainly be a conversation for every film we want to watch, I think.

Further Notes …

• This isn’t a live watch thing
  • Watch the films in your own time and how you want, including a live watch thing of your own if you like of course
• This will be flexible
  • There’s plenty of scope to adjust how this works along the way
  • Happy to take suggestions here, as I said, but I think running it at least once before getting too much into the weeds is a good idea
  • One of the biggest ways in which this could adapt, IMO, is being specific with the genre and/or era for any given month, and/or maybe even expanding it out to multiple movie clubs for different interests
• The first two aims listed above are the main thing IMO
  • Which means the voting is just to lead to a suggestion for us to gather around one film at a time
  • You can watch and post about any of the suggestions if you like (obviously, really) and that’d absolutely be a good thing … watching cool/good/interesting films is the whole point IMO

I believe you … gate-keeping types are all over the place really.

But vegans or the “vegan-curious” aren’t one thing or one kind of person, at least not any more. I personally have only ever had positive conversations with vegan types.

This instance, in being insistent on not entertaining any “harm reduction” or “compromises”, makes sense though … because it’s a space for people to talk about that sort of dedicated approach.

they drive away potential allies because the concept of harm reduction is anathema to their binary thinking. If you’re not ALL in, you’re the enemy.

I can resonate with that. But I come back to … “it’s totally ok for people to create their own spaces, especially on federated social media and especially for minority groups/ideas”.

There are likely plenty of other spaces for “potential allies” to engage and talk about veganism if they want to, or plenty they, or you, could make on their own.

Tacitly admitting that vegans are usually antisocial zealots. “It’s right in the name!”

Well, they’re running their own social media platform, so I’m not sure how anti-social they are.

Right. Well, I think the instance name “vegantheory.org” was doing that already, and I’m betting you drew your conclusion from the public description of the place too (and aren’t in the modlog or anything for challenging their ideas).

And what would a non-vegan want to do in there?

What’s wrong with minority views and practices creating their own spaces?

On which, is there any non-vegan/anti-vegan thought or idea that a vegan is likely to have not heard already? How many haven’t they heard relative to the amount of decent “pro-vegan” ideas they also haven’t heard of?

Maybe a specialised space, echo chamber even, makes sense in order to balance against the gravity of the mainstream?

Good insight there with the gaming industry, hadn’t thought of that (as I haven’t been a gamer for a while).

In the end though, this buttresses Sander’s point I think, which is that having the theatres protected their industry for longer. The theatre isn’t just the shop or shelf but the whole product, experience and marketing activity rolled into one.

I guess it’s the King’s English now.

I’ll probably say “Queen’s” until the day I die. Liz has probably earned that much.

Or you sometimes hear about shitty they apparently are as people. Truly left behind.

Ha. Yea. Having a boomer generation does these sorts of things. Like both X and Y (millennial) gens have also transitioned sharply from being young (and “stupid”) to now actually old and ridiculed by younger gens. The dominance of the boomers gen in size allowed their perspective over X and Y to culturally persist.

Cheers.

You know that’s an interesting one. As a speaker/writer of “Queens English”, I sometimes find myself reaching for the US spelling online just not to fit in (eg color) … and I think that kinda happened here, and I honestly didn’t know curtesy wasn’t the US spelling (not that I have any hard precedent to cite).

Yea. A basic heuristic I picked up a while ago was “was this better before the accountants got involved”. I got it from someone telling me their profession was clearly better before accountants ruined it.

With so many great things vying for my attention, I appreciate the ability to just turn something off if it doesn’t suit my taste.

Which is sanderson’s point I think. This is what books have been like for a long time. Film industry probably just needs to adapt.

Yea I agree. Like I said in the OP text, there may have been a long drawn out transition that is only hitting hard enough now, especially because of age demographics. If true, you’d expect that we’ve reached the point where the internet generations (millennial and younger) are the majority of the potential cinema going audience.

Which feels right.

It seems to me that 90s kid millennials and their young children are the current “mainstream”. And boomers have just shifted out of dominance in the past 5 years or so. The pandemic may have masked this shift TBH and we may have been talking about it more if it weren’t for the pandemic.