Weird. I really enjoyed it. Loved the characters, liked the story, and all the little nods to the games and fandom were nice and didn’t feel out of place. Probably one of the better adaptations I’ve seen.
Same. Ragebait headline.
Maybe the title was changed after posting, but it’s more reasonable on the actual article
“A bad TV show no one will remember in 3 months…”: Some Fallout Fans are Gatekeeping Pretty Hard after New Vegas Revelations and Retcons Send Them Over the Edge
Lol, bullshit. 94%/88% on RT.
The show is awesome, and has already been greenlit for S02. It would have been so easy to fuck this show up, but they knocked it out of the park. As an avid player of the games, I loved it! This reviewer doesn’t know what they’re talking about.
I think the show is solid, but I did notice at one point that it’s basically a reskin of Westworld and now I can’t unsee it.
I mean, naive girl gets the nature of her world redefined for her and is poised to become a revolutionary fighter? That happens.
A ruthless, cruel cowboy who isn’t a cowboy but plays one for a long time, has god mode on and looks like an actor you know was left in the sun for too long? Surprisingly specific, but yep.
Is actually based on a videogame full of NPCs? In different ways but yeah.
Beloved older actor plays a figure of corporate authority with a secret plan? Getting into stretch territory but I see it.
I still enjoyed it, though. Looks so much better than the trailers, too, and it took me a while to realize it’s because the trailers really had to hide the gore so they looked really cosplay-y. Hard to look cosplay-y with so many chunks flying around.
This is such a high level description that it is a meaningless comparison. The fact that Fallout doesn’t take itself nearly as seriously as Westworld is already a huge difference. Sometimes the implementation is what is valuable, not the idea.
I’ve played all the Fallout games, my wife has played none of them. We are both enjoying it quite a bit so far, at least two episodes in.
New Vegas is the best of the modern Fallout games, but toxic elements in its fan base are making me enjoy the game less and less each year. We should stop giving them the time of day.
The show is great, and these people are just fishing for nonsense to feed their persecution complex.
I think the show is actually a pretty good adaptation.
Yeah I was thinking… would a Fallout show be goofy and colorful, or dark and horrific? Amazon said, yes. And it’s great.
Gamers are so fucking weird. Really enjoyed the show. Hope they make 2nd season.
Yeah this is the first I’ve heard of it being bad. Everywhere else, I’ve read it’s pretty good.
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not so bad that Fallout fans won’t stick with it for butchering the IP.
Todd already beat them to the punch on that account.
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@0xtero @delitomatoes same here but I guess it rakes the clicks in.
Old fart FO player since the very first btw.
This is a great TV adaptation of a game (that isn’t exactly known for it’s “great” story writing as well)
I hate to say this, but it’s almost better at Fallout than Fallout.
They should have made one more episode to where after she gets out, they explain some of the factions, the monetary system, and where in the Wasteland they are. All in all, I liked it and can’t wait until season 2.
On the Prime Fallout site, they have a bunch of extras and bonus content that explains a lot of the background stuff like that. It’s kind of neat. You should check it out.
Its a great show and Im enjoying it despite the massive, glaring world consistency issues.
Like what the hell happened to the NCR?Or, you know, the lore of all of the games outside of Fallout 3 and 4.
Its painfully clear that Todd is salty that the worst two games in the fallout series are 3 and 4. So he’s erasing the pre bethesda games and the best game(that respects the original lore), New Vegas.
So… I keep seeing people say this online.
I assume they’re saying it before they finished watching the whole season. Because they do explain what happened to the NCR and explicitly acknowledge New Vegas in at least two very significant ways.
Getting rid of the NCR is ludicrous and is blatantly just Bethesda diminishing the creations of everyone who isn’t Bethesda.
3 and 4 are the worst stories in the series. Yet Bethesda seems intent on making them the main stories.
I am dreading seeing how they incorporate New Vegas given what they did to the NCR. I would rather that they not even touch it at this point
Yeah, so… no, that’s fanboy stuff. That’s not how massive corporations make their decisions, not how artists make their decisions and, very specifically, not what is actually in the show.
Plus of course what you’re saying is different to the online panic about NV “not being canon”, which Bethesda has now explicitly denied. The NCR very much exists in the show, it’s just been significantly downsized to early Fallout levels. Not because Bethesda is “diminishing the creations of everyone who isn’t Bethesda”, though. If I had to make an educated guess based on how reality actually operates, I’d assume it’s because Lisa Joy and Jonathan Nolan wanted to make a show about a postapocalyptic wasteland and having a democratic government that has been running mostly fine for the past 100 years kinda gets in the way of that.
So yeah, welcome to franchising, where war never changes and neither does the status quo. It’s mostly absurd that people in Fallout are still roaming around in reclaimed pre-war gear and doing the Mad Max schtick five generations into the postapocalypse, but Fallout gotta look like Fallout, so Fallout will look like Fallout until Fallout stops making money, at which point it will not look like anything anymore. Yay capitalism.
Hey, wanna know what they’ll do to New Vegas? They’ll probably do some variation on the plot of New Vegas. Mr. House and the Legion will probably still be around in some form despite it not making a ton of sense in continuity. Just like this season was all about leaving a vault to look for your missing dad, just like Filly just happens to have the same layout and landmarks as Megaton, just like there’s a Dogmeat and just like Vault 33 now needs a water chip and will probably have to send someone outside to look for it. Because it’s recognizable IP and recognizable IP has to be in the show so it can be fueled by recognizable IP.
Have you finished the series? Because I don’t think I agree with this at all.
Not one bit.
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Anything I should be aware of if I decide I’d like to give it a watch?
It sometimes runs on video game logic (for example, some pretty bad injuries can be healed instantly with the right equipment while others can’t) and is bloodier than I would have expected. I’d say you don’t need to be too familiar with the games as the show tells its own story. It has quite a few references to tropes from the games but even if you don’t get the reference, it should still be enjoyable.
In general don’t trust sensationalist reviews that call it the best or worst show of the year.
My friend described it with the phrase “reddit liked it,” and I immediately crossed it off our list
Imagine living your life letting reddit be your filter for meaningful experience lmao.
Touch grass guy.
If the best description of something can only be broken down to “reddit liked it” then either the person doesn’t know how to describe anything, or that’s an accurate description in itself.
I watched the first episode and found it not interesting. Certain things were good and others bad, but I just didn’t care and was waiting for it to end.
Apparently I’m in the minority as fans seem to flock to defend it. To each their own.
I’m not a “fan”, haven’t played the games, other than some of the shitty mobile one, but knew some of the lore.
Just binge watched all episodes… and judging all of them by just the first one, is a mistake. There’s much more to the show than what amounts to a basic introduction.
But to each their own, as you said.
I stopped watching in the first episode when the tiny girl beat up a muscular huge man.
Felt like avengers but she is supposed to be a normal girl right? I felt it was so dumb.
Her introduction montage at the beginning, where she was doing all the exercises and training, didn’t do it for ya? Between the two, I thought the guy was less believable given his circumstances.
Really? So interesting to me that someone would think she could even hurt the guy.
The way he was built in the show, sure, but he’s supposedly very irradiated, malnourished and poorly disciplined. I think the scenario of her winning that fight on makes more sense than him looking so buff in the first place.
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…you mean the girl (at the beginning of the episode, shown to be an A+ in all “stats”) that took on a man post coitus and still was thrown around the room and only survived thanks to the blender?
Seemed pretty realistic, and Fallout to me.
Beat up? Are you kidding me? She’s described as a combat trained woman in peak physical performance and she’s still being overcomed by the man aggressor. She succeeded in winning buy using a blender as a weapon, and that sounds pretty realistic to me.
I mean, as the previous posters have said, if this is supposed to be like a game, then sure. Anything is possible. But if it was reality, she would have no chance against that guy.
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But if it was reality
“In a future, post-apocalyptic Los Angeles brought about by nuclear decimation, citizens must live in underground bunkers to protect themselves from radiation, mutants and bandits.”
And you picked a girl punching a guy the exact moment to suspend your belief at? Damn dude.
The show is not high art. No one will be winning an Emmy for acting. It certainly doesn’t warrant the high rating on RT. But it’s entertaining, engaging, visually stimulating and a fantastic adaptation of the games.
If you’re expecting a Last of Us calibre deep dive into society and the human condition coping with an apocalypse, you’ll be disappointed. If you’re expecting a fun romp through the wastelands with body parts gratuitously exploding into red mist, then look no farther!
The Ghoul definitely picked Bloody Mess as one of his perks.