• LeLachs@lemmy.ml
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        The specific problem with both systems is that they are controlled by a central entity. Sounds harmless enough on a first glance. However, this also means that whoever owns/controls this system, can control a lot of people very effectively. This could be used for good but is instead mostly used to keep people in line.

        This makes it easy for a single person/small group to control an entire nation, which I think is a bad thing.

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          The specific problem with both systems is that only one of them actually exists. The chinese one is not a thing.

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          Good thing that the system in China is in the hands of the working majority. If you look at how Chinese political system is structured it becomes clear that it’s not in fact in the hands of a small group of people.

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            I do not believe that is the case. Mainly because of their questionable choices. Things like their great Firewall, which also censors political topics that the government does not approve or the perseution of certain ethnic groups. I don’t belive a majority of the people would want to do things like that.

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                Claiming that taking tough measures to arrest the spread of the pandemic instead of letting millions of people die the way west did was a bad decision is the height of psychopathy. You are one sick individual.

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                  You’re putting a lot of words in my mouth my guy. You said the Chinese government is run by the majority workers. I’m giving an example of how the majority wanted something, and the minority said otherwise. Not only said otherwise, but imprisoned anyone that dissented. Like all government, the few control the many.

                  The “zero covid” policy in china was absolutely insane.

                  AND, guess what, I was able to argue my point without calling names. Lmao.

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                    Majority of people in China actually wanted to have a safe environment. I guess just making shit up is what passes for making an argument in your head. LMAO indeed.

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              There is nothing questionable about those choices. For example, the firewall is the reason why China has its own domestic tech industry while the rest of the world is dominated by a handful of US companies. Meanwhile, censorship of capitalist views is good actually. And the idea that the government prosecutes certain ethnic groups has no actual basis in reality. This notion has been debunked to death but people in the west will keep repeating this because that’s what they want to believe.

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                    I mean, I guess if that’s where we’re going to go, it doesn’t matter what I say, the number of organizations, within the UN, outside the UN, independent, dependent. You’re just going to call bullshit because who said it isn’t happening? China? Odd, I wonder what they’d have to gain by saying they aren’t committing human atrocities.

                    There are no organizations, to my knowledge, that are dying on the hill that there’s absolutely nothing happening with the Uyghurs.

                    There are a lot of reports that say shits going down. Yes, I’m sure a lot of it is editorialized. Just like anything about America in those countries. I’m not naive enough to believe anyone at face value but I’m not going to write off everything as propaganda either. Even China says the camps exist basically specifically for them, for “reeducation”. Which, sure, maybe the people need, but, to believe that at face value is a level of bliss I would love to reach.

                    And before anyone goes “well the US…” I CONDEMN THAT SHIT TOO. Stop fucking murdering people. There isn’t some magical government that’s better than anyone else. They all fucking suck.

                    But to pretend it isn’t happening, that’s a tragedy. I hope if someone has to give you compassion on that level, you get it. Cause it’s the least we can do to each other.

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            Who has access to the back end data, and the ability within it to change any data they want?

            Because a group of people with this power exists, whether or not you believe they will act upon it.

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              The power of the government being premised solely on who has access to the backend data is certainly a novel political theory.

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          You sure could’ve avoided making a clown of yourself if you bothered reading the links provided

          Contrary to common belief, the cities mainly target companies, not individuals.

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                  Let’s face it, you can’t even find China on a map. You’re never going to go to China, you don’t give a shit about people living in China. You’re just a racist who thinks he’s being awful clever. It’s sad and pathetic, and everybody can see through it.

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                    Oh I’m racist? Next you’re gonna tell me I am not the same age as her do not touch! Making fun of a government and leader of said government is not racism. You are beyond ridiculous, more ridiculous than the noise Xi Jinping makes when he motorboats my scrote.