I plugged into ethernet (as wifi w/captive portal does not work for me). I think clearnet worked but I have no interest in that. Egress Tor traffic was blocked and so was VPN. Iām not interested in editing all my scripts and configs to use clearnet, so the libraryās internet is useless to me (unless I bother to try a tor bridge).
I was packing my laptop and a librarian spotted me unplugging my ethernet cable and approached me with big wide open eyes and pannicked angry voice (as if to be addressing a child that did something naughty), and said āyou canāt do that!ā
I have a lot of reasons for favoring ethernet, like not carrying a mobile phone that can facilitate the SMS verify that the libraryās captive portal imposes, not to mention Iām not eager to share my mobile number willy nilly. The reason I actually gave her was that that I run a free software based system and the wifi drivers or firmware are proprietary so my wifi card doesnāt workĀ¹. She was also worried that I was stealing an ethernet cable and I had to explain that I carry an ethernet cable with me, which she struggled to believe for a moment. When I said it didnāt work, she was like āgood, Iām not surprisedā, or something like that.
Ā¹ In reality, I have whatever proprietary garbage my wifi NIC needs, but have a principled objection to a service financed by public money forcing people to install and execute proprietary non-free software on their own hardware. But thereās little hope for getting through to a librarian in the situation at hand, whereby I might as well have been caught disassembling their PCs.
Someone should let the IT staff know that wi-fi does not work for everyone, including:
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And because simply turning on Wi-Fi in public enables all iPhones in your range to automatically snoop, collect your wi-fi params including SSIDs your device looks for before sending it to Apple, along with GPS fix and timestamp (according to research), there are people who:
HI there. Iām someone in IT for a Public Library so let me review these points.
Thatās a you and your hardware problem, not a public library IT problem. You need to purchase hardware that is adequately supported by your chosen Operating System.
This is a you and your hardware problem. Buy hardware that is adequately supported by your chosen Operating System.
This one is a semi-serious complaint however Iāve never seen a portal system where the Librarianās didnāt have the ability to issue a day pass for use. Aside from that you sound like someone who should be technically able to stand up an ephemeral phone number for the purpose of receiving SMS.
Same as above.
What an absolutely petty complaint.
Iād bet that as soon as you enter a code your VPN stops being blocked. Theyāre not trying to block VPN they are preventing you from sidestepping their ToS.
Iāve dealt with Patrons like you before and the instant someone starts yammering at me about ClearNet / Tor I know exactly what kind of person Iām dealing with.
You selected your path for whatever reasons you chose and the inconveniences that come with that path are yours to deal with. Suck it up buttercup, you werenāt promised that a privacy respecting internet lifestyle would be easy or convenient.
BTW if youād plugged your laptop into one of my systems youād have gotten vlanād into the same Captive Portal System that the WiFi has which is precisely how any publicly available Ethernet port should function. Your little length of wires coated in vinyl with plastic shoved on the ends still wouldnāt have gotten you where you wanted to go.
Forcing people to buy more hardware is yet another variation of discrimination against the poor. Imposed needless consumerism is also reckless from an environmental standpoint. If you choose not to step your competency up to the level needed to serve the public without costing them more money, youāre only getting off the hook in the view of right-wing conservatives who are happy to have library service cheapened at the expense of equal rights.
Not being āyour problemā is simply a problem of an ill-defined contract that allows irresponsible policy.
Itās not a hardware problem. Itās an ethics problem, and the problem is on your part whether you choose to acknowledge it or not. If you lack the higher level of competency needed to practice your trade ethically, you should try to gain the competency you need to be inclusive of people in different economic standings and diverse hardware.
Not a single public library in my area has a day pass option as an alternative authentication. If the patron has no phone, the library helpless and the user is not getting online with their own device.
There is no way to get a phone or an active SIM chip gratis in my area. The only difference between a burner phone and a non-burner phone in my area is you quit using the burner phone early. It has all the same problems as a permanent phone. You can get a pinger number online, but it only works if youāre already online. Apart from that, your suggestion is absurd as an official policy in response to public complaint about phoneless people being officially excluded.
It fails here too, for the same reason.
What an absolutely pathetic failure to support a claim to the contrary.
This is not a /me/ problem. You are responding to a list of demographics of people who are excluded from a public service. If not every single person has a gratis VPN (and they donāt), this is a broken argument. To say every user must acquire a VPN because you cannot provide a means of access that thwarts the most trivial MitM possible is a reckless abandonment of duty.
So your emotional bias adversely hinders your judgement and ability to service a diverse range of users. It shows.
Inconveniences are borne out of the kind of incompetent infosec that youāre peddling. A competent tech firm can do this job without violating data minimisation principles and without violating Article 21 of the UDHR.
And that would still be violating peoplesā Article 21 rights to equal access. Imposing a mobile phone is among the injustices Iāve mentioned. I would still favor the ethernet regardless of the captive portal for many of the reasons Iāve mentioned. In the very least it avoids discriminating against people without functioning wifi h/w.
I guess Meta, Google, Amazon and countless other companies are with you on this one for the ad and tracking riddled mass exploitation Internet of today.
I began my struggle with F/OSS and its drivers with Slackware V3 shortly after itās release. I long ago memorized absolutely every argument you could possible come up with and have myself repeated many of them over the years. That doesnāt change the fact that Networks and Systems are not configured for your convenience and YOU are responsible for how your own damn hardware works.
Now get the hell off my lawn.
I really missed my opportunity on that one!
We are in a public community on the open Internet here where the following is written in the sidebar :
Tor was created by the USA military and the USA government has funded with millions of dollars. Many years ago Tor had a negative word association to it. But not so much anymore. Countless volunteers run Tor nodes from home, and Tor is not that slow anymore as it used to. I use Tor myself because I strongly dislike all the tracking, snooping and scandals by large and even small companies. The Clearnet Internet has become a disastrous place :(
Itās a good point about the irrational Tor hostility. But note the more perverse absurdity with his comment: that a public library is āhis lawnā. If his inability and unwillingness to equally serve the whole public would be just in the private sector, there would be no issue because everyone he disservices can refuse to do business with him.
Whatās sickening here is he said āIām someone in IT for a Public Libraryā. So he is operating a public service in an exclusive manner telling people /get off his lawn/, which was financed with public money. And ~7+ of 8 people are okay with that.
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In that sense, it implies that we were encroaching on his space, when in fact he entered this thread (like his handle: a bulldozer) to demand that people recognize an approach to sysadministration that does not respect equal rights, privacy, or the environment, and ultimately undermines human rights and promotes consumerism to ease his job at his competency level, as if the public is expected to serve him. Itās not his lawn in either sense of the meaning.
He made it quite he expects everyone to go through hoops to make his job convenient when he said:
āThat doesnāt change the fact that Networks and Systems are not configured for your convenienceā
It would be a malpractice of security. Security is about confidentiality, integrity, and availability. To reduce availability needlessly is to work against security. If availability were not essential to security, then you would just unplug the all machines, making the internet unusuable to everyone, and call it āsecureā. A competent admin can securely offer internet service to people without phones, and people without a wifi card.
Youāre welcome to use the library PCs (if available) or get your own ISP connection.
Yeah, this argument is bullshit once you actually know what youāre talking about instead of following some cult videos that teach you to repeat them.