Civfanatics. I actually joined up long before I ever signed up for Reddit. It’s probably the one site besides Youtube that I’ve consistently used since middle school.

I had an account of similar magnitude banned. Why? Because on January 6th, on the very day, I wondered aloud why there weren’t soldiers repelling the crowd of insurrectionists trying to overthrow our democracy with machine gun fire. I’m sorry, but if a crowd of thousands of people shows up with the intent of hanging the vice president and overthrowing the government? Well, you made your choice if you’re in that group. The correct response to a group like that is to first give them plenty of warning. But if they persist, use whatever force is necessary to repel them.

Other things I’ve been banned for:

• Telling an overt bigot posting in an LGBT sub to go kindly “go die in a fire.”
• Suggesting, before the ruling, that if SCOTUS ruled that the president was completely above the law that he should simply drone strike Supreme Court justices to produce a majority on the court that would repeal his new powers.
• Evading bogus bans.

At this point I’ve got a lifetime ban from there. And you know what? I’m fine with it. The policies on reddit remind me of the blind “zero tolerance” policies that have screwed over so many in American high schools. When I was in high school years ago, the standard was “zero tolerance” for violence of any kind. If a bully attacked a victim, they would both get in trouble. Being the victim was no defense. It was zero tolerance, zero thought. And that is the standard that is now used on reddit. They’ll still allow racist dogwhistles and entire subreddits run by hate groups, but as long as you don’t cross a handful of explicit lines, you’re fine. You can openly celebrate the deaths of tens of thousands of people in Gaza, but tell one bigot to go die in a fire, and suddenly you’re banned.

Gotta disagree with that. I remember the rampant elitism and tribalism, the shock-culture, isolation of communities, casual bigotry that would make modern 4chan blush, arbitrary forum rules irregularly enforced, etc etc etc.

For all the modern internet’s problems, its communities are much more connected, it’s much more accessible and less elitist, that shock-culture died out, the casual bigotry became contentious instead of accepted, and corporate running the show on most of these sites means that appeals and reversals are much easier than when you would rub some mod the wrong way and get permabanned from a forum you were a long-time member of. Never happened to me, but I saw it numerous times.

It had unique pieces, and a lot that I genuinely miss. But… there was also a LOT of bullshit that wouldn’t pass muster nowadays.

So much creativity, everyone has a normal voice,

…

You might be wearing nostalgia goggles.

Ah, the ol’ lemmy switcheroo!

I think they meant that hating on reddit is cool.

Maybe they meant before Reddit became cool, which happened before it became much less cool.

And it’s still a circle-jerk

It’s tragic, really. Reddit used to be great. Enshittification sucks.

Saw a stat the other day, and I can’t speak to accuracy. But the claim was that like 58% I think of all content online is bots.

If you read it, the mod certainly didn’t beg. They just mentioned that they’re still blocking bots and to not be discouraged from posting original content.

Also I find it highly doubtful that the mods of that subreddit are concerned about shareholders. Why would a mod care about money when they’re not even getting paid? They most likely just care about keeping the community alive.

Not to take away the point. Which I think is something most Lemmy users have realized ages ago, reddit is so full of repost bots that it makes gallowboob look like a saint. So much in fact that after two days, not a single original post has occurred in a subreddit with a reported 17 million followers.

I thought fear was the little death???

discord requires a phone number to create an account. hard pass.

It’s an excellent chat program (except it’s pretty buggy on mobile). But it doesn’t function well as a forum replacement. The lack of discoverability is a big problem.

Yeah… shooting some nonsense back and forth. But game devs that shoehorn stuff into discord making everything objectively worse while making everything unfindable… it drives me nuts!

Not if those friends care about having their data sold to advertisers.

username checks out

That’s an adult themed subreddit. You’ll need to sign in on the app thanks!

At least Reddit can be searched by google or on site^1,2,3

1 terms and conditions do apply
2 you need an account for some subreddits
3 you also need the app for some subreddits

That’s not exactly true anymore. Reddit has deindexed itself.

Yeah, I feel dirty for even saying this…

Reddit allows site wide search, and recently contracted with Google to make their content accessible. Also old reddit content is searchable and thread based conversations can be followed.

Discord is just a vast collection of independent black holes that gobble up information and data while its users collectively yell into the void of chat channels.

Yeah, it’s just that devs of games guide everyone there and try and shoehorn it in. I don’t know how or why devs do this… just run your own forum with a chat module.

Reddit actually solved that problem for me by blocking themselves from appearing in Bing search results.

Goes to Google and types in a search

Reddit

Reddit

Forum post that links back to Reddit

YouTube that’s just a bunch of screenshots of Reddit over an automated voice

Reddit again

Why won’t my ex leave me the fuck alone?

Oh boy… Just wait until they go full into Gemini. They’re starting to use Gemini and AI in general for search capabilities.

Yeah, I’ve long since stopped using Google. Theres not any search engines I’ve found that mimic Google in its height, but many of them are better than what Google is now. Even bing.

No Fark? No Plastic?

Yeah, at the core, people cause problems when the group gets too big to be a tight knit one. There are also a not insignificant amount of people, who get together, with antisocial behavior in mind. When you have thousands of people, posting on some community forum, it will be impossible for it not have some serious underlying issues. Not to even think of the scale of places like reddit, where that forum could have millions of users.

Back in the day, when IRC ruled the social scene of the internet, it was hard to control a channel that had 100+ people on it, forget about crowds orders of magnitude larger.

That’s impressive, I think I’ve got half a dozen.

I just got another one today for “harassment” of zionism in r/worldnews. Reddit cannot hold a free discussion and they know it. They can’t even let you speak to expose their bullshit, and permaban you when you do.

I can you show you the comment which got me banned. I was literally asking questions which they know the answer for but censor intentionally because they are bought and controlled by awful groups directly linked to the IDF themselves. They have a division who train and employe teens as stupid Hasbara trolls who don’t know history and unable to hold a discussion.

I hate to ruin this for you, but if you post nonsense, it will get downvoted by humans and excluded from any data set (or included as examples of what to avoid). If it’s not nonsensical enough to be downvoted, it still won’t do well vote wise, and will not realistically poison any data. And if it’s upvoted… it just might be good data. That is why Reddit’s data is valuable to Google. It basically has a built in system for identifying ‘bad’ data.

Shit usually floats.

imo redditors and 4channers think too highly of themselves if they believe they have real influence on elections. Most people aren’t online (except for Facebook), and politics are much more readily explained by material causes such as the Dems fcking up the post 2008 economic recovery and going for austerity instead of investment. The biggest proximate cause (non-material/economic) is just that hilldawg ran a bad campaign that didn’t focus enough on swing states (but she won the popular vote, congratulations).

There have been dark corners of the internet for several decades now. 4chan is just one. Trump didn’t achieve popularity because of it. There aren’t enough users, and there certainly aren’t enough politically and economically influential users, for that to be true.

It used to. Used to be the #1 most visited website worldwide for many years.